The relationship between Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi and the Biden family is so strained that the outgoing president and his wife did not check in on her after she broke her hip last month, enraging Pelosi’s family.

The first lady spoke about Pelosi and the other Democrats who had reservations about her husband running for a second term. She also shared details of a recent interaction with Donald Trump and what she wishes people remember about both her and her husband.

Jill Biden has publicly turned on Nancy Pelosi, criticising her “disappointing” move to oust her husband from the presidential race.